UFO’s – The Harbingers of Coming Deception

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Carl Joseph

Carl is a biblical scholar, minister, husband, father and life coach. In his mid-twenties he had a powerful encounter with God and saw miraculous healings as a result. He passionately shares these stories and empowers others to fulfill their God-given potential.

UFOs are nothing new, they have been around for centuries. Some of my family members have seen them, and today there are approximately 7000 sightings per year, according to the National UFO Reporting Center. Did you know that Alexander the Great was one of the first historical figures to document a UFO sighting in 329 BC? But where exactly do these UFO’s come from? Are they little green men from other planets or inter-dimensional entities? Could these sightings be the precursor to a great delusion found in 2nd Thessalonians? Let us join Carl now as Christ’s warning of deception in these ’last days,’ holds merit as we investigate the potential source of this UFO phenomena…

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Friend, I’m going to talk about a topic today that quite frankly will not only surprise you but might cause you to think I’m losing my marbles, but bear with me please. I’m talking about UFO’s. Now UFO stands for Unidentified Flying Object as I’m sure you’re aware but there’s something vey salient I wish to point out about all UFO sightings, they occur in the air; and more on that shortly. In the United States alone there are approximately 7000 UFO sightings reported each year according to the National UFO Reporting Center but one must also consider that for every sighting that’s reported perhaps there are three times as many that go unreported.  

This flood of sightings really began in 1947, coincidentally right around the time the nation of Israel was established, which is a marker for the end times. The flying saucer story really began on June 24, 1947, when a private pilot, Kenneth Arnold, who was taking part in a search for a missing transport aircraft, saw nine disc-shaped objects flying over Mount Rainier, Washington. He described the objects as “flying like a saucer would if you skimmed it across the water.” Arnold’s devotion to what he saw and professional reputation were beyond question, and his account of the incident was accepted by all authorities at the time as genuine. Newspapers picked up the story and labeled the objects “flying saucers,” and it has stuck ever since. It’s interesting that Washington State remains in the top three of states within the lower 48 that has the most sightings per year, along with California having the most of all, followed closely by Florida, then thirdly Washington state and Texas in fourth place. Now, the UFO phenomenon is burgeoning and not going away as researcher LA Marzulli often says and there are very few Christian researchers who’re willing to give serious discussion to this phenomenon, let alone Pastors who’re willing to talk about it in the pulpit for fear of ridicule.

Now granted there are numerous hoaxes of UFO sightings on the internet and that goes without saying. Of all the sightings out there perhaps as little as 3-5 % fall into the category of truly unidentified objects that exhibit phenomenon which cannot be explained by the natural laws of physics and it’s these elusive and mysterious objects which are my focus today. One of the most spectacular reports of a UFO came from a United States Gemini 4 astronaut, James McDivitt, in June 1965. In orbit, about 90 miles above the earth, McDivitt saw a cylindrical object, apparently with arms sticking out of it, which he took to be another spacecraft with antennae. It appeared to be in free flight over the Pacific, about 3 miles higher than the Gemini capsule. McDivitt took one still photograph and some film. He observed that the object was moving in a parallel path to his own spacecraft, but closing in fast. It then rapidly disappeared from view. When he did inspect the film, the object was “hazily” outlined against the sky. But he remained convinced it was a positive identification. Friend, the reason these sightings cannot be discounted as mere fantasy or illusion is because of the credible witnesses who’ve reported them and there are quite a few astronauts who’ve gone on record about these UFOs also. Aeronautical engineers, weather bureau observers, FBI agents, the armed forces comprising the Navy, Army and Air Force, private pilots, air traffic controllers, and even commercial pilots from Pan American, United Airlines, Northwest, Western and Trans World Airlines, are all on the list of credible witnesses. In the words of Dr. Clifford Wilson, “to an unprejudiced investigator, it would have been hard to find a group better qualified to observe and report on UFO’s“.

Up until the mid-1990’s, a total of about 26 astronauts have reported seeing UFOs while in orbit and I’m sure that number has increased since then. The first sighting was in 1962, and later reports include those made by men aboard Skylabs I, II and III. Captain Ed Mitchell, the sixth man to walk on the moon, told a press conference in 1974: “We all know UFO’s are real. The question is, where do they come from?” Friend that’s a bold explanation for an astronaut isn’t it. But what about presidents? Evidentially by their own admission, Presidents Eisenhower, Carter, Nixon, Reagan, Clinton, Bush Senior and George Bush Junior have all stated they’ve a UFO at some point. There are several celebrities who’ve seen these flying objects also, including Jackie Gleason, Dan Ackroyd, William Shatner, Mick Jagger, Marianne Faithful, John Lennon and several others I could have mentioned.

You know even some of my family members have seen a UFO back in the UK. My aunt saw a cigar shaped object hover over our local harbor in Wales way back in the 1970’s and the area where I come from came to be known as the Pembrokeshire triangle believe it or not, which had numerous sightings during that same period of the 1970’s. Heck we even knew of people who moved to our home town, just to observe the phenomenon. In fact England is pretty high up there in the number of sightings per capita. UFOs appear to be attracted to England’s West Country and Wales of course is even further west than that. The Wiltshire town of Warminster has been designated by some to be the UFO sightings capital of the world and would give Roswell a run for its money according to some.

But what exactly is responsible for these strange sightings in the sky? I would suggest to you this phenomenon is in fact nothing new. Alexander the Great wrote in his personal journal as far back as 329 BC that his army was repeatedly harassed from the sky by two objects resembling “Silver Shields”. In addition, several Roman historians recorded the appearance of fire and silver objects in the sky and one flew over the city of Hadria in 214 AD. In Hungary in 966 AD, two shining and polished objects were reported going to and fro in an erratic fashion. Two similar objects were reported in Japan in 1015 AD. In Cairo Egypt, nearly a thousand years ago, noisy flying objects were seen in 1027 AD. In 1492 just hours before Christopher Columbus landed in the New World, he wrote in his journal that while standing on the deck of the ship he noticed a bright object fall from the sky into the water and then exit the water and return to the skies. He and members of the crew observed other strange lights moving up and down in the distant sky. But what of it Pastor? You’ve told me nothing I don’t know already, what are these things anyway? Well friend, all of these strange lights occur in the air and friend, man was not granted dominion over the air necessarily but the earth, even though he has ventured into flight in the past century. Ephesians 2:1 reads, “And you hath he quickened, who were dead in trespasses and sins;wherein in time past ye walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air.”

Friend, Satan is the deceiver; he is the prince of the power of the air in addition to his title as ruler, prince and god of this world. If you’ll recall also in 2 Cor 11:14, ” And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.” In our technological age Satan and his vast minions in the form of principalities, powers, rulers of this world and the spiritually wicked in high places, have shifted their strategy in recent years to present themselves as our interplanetary saviors from a nearby galaxy.

TV, film industry and news media as a whole have recently become obsessed with the idea that we’ve not only evolved as Darwin proposed but perhaps our evolutionary cycle was accelerated or potentially cross pollinated by extra terrestrial’s who visited from another galaxy and the History Channels Ancient Aliens program, now in its 11th series, produced by Prometheus entertainment pushes this false agenda each and every week. Now friend I do believe evil angels visited our planet in the distant past because it says so in Gen 6:1-4 but they were called the “Sons of god” and certainly not our saviors. The well respected and late Bible expert Dr. Walter Martin said in a 1968 interview: “At some point in the near future UFO occupants would begin to interact extensively with people. Their message? We are superior beings— advanced far beyond you earthlings. Look at our technology. But we have come to help and guide you.” Friend God’s word and his spirit is our guide, we don’t need any more guides. But not only do they desire to guide us but even go so far as to claim they are our progenitors.

This popular notion is gaining popularity in our day and age and falls under the title of panspermia. This hypothesis was first coined by Savante Arrhenius, a Swedish Professor of physics who lived from 1859-1927. It gained even further exploration in the recent movie Prometheus, directed by Ridley Scott of Blade Runner and Alien fame. This cosmic evolutionary theory proposes that life was seeded by meteoroids, asteroids, planetoids and now ET’s or aliens in the distant past. In fact, Nobel Prize winner, Francis Crick, co discoverer of the Double helix structure of DNA is one of those who’ve claimed that Earth was started by intelligent extraterrestrial powers in the venerable past. Now friend, it’s obvious that Satan is using this agenda to deceive mankind into thinking that he is God. These so called little green men are none other than demons and or fallen angels posing as benevolent guides from another galaxy, but are secretly hiding a dark agenda in order to deceive mankind into worshiping them instead of Yahweh God our true creator. The truth is friend; they’re not extra terrestrial but extra dimensional having their origin in the spirit realm.

I sincerely believe along with several eschatological scholars this claim that man was seeded by aliens is the very delusion spoken of in 2nd Thessalonians 2:11. If you recall in recent weeks I discussed the ‘falling away’, mentioned in this passage, to be the rapture of the church and how that word for falling away or apostasia, in the Greek language was translated as departed for over 1200 years since Jerome’s Latin Vulgate right up to and including six of the English translations until the King James Version. Well friend, I propose to you that when we the Spirit filled church or restrainer of evil is removed this earth, deception will be rife during the tribulation period and one of these deceptions will be the concept that demon entities and/or fallen angels are our progenitors and mankind should bow down and worship them. I truly believe the only reason this hasn’t happened yet is because we’re still here and this deception cannot happen until we the restrainer are removed. As I’ve said before friend, we have authority over these dark forces, and we should never be afraid of them, In fact some Christians have even encountered UFO’s and noticed they disappear rapidly when the name of Jesus is spoken.

But friend as I’ve said before and will say again, we the church will be long gone before that happens, so do not fear. However, even during this time frame you can see how the evil one is propagating this false idea of panspermia throughout popular culture. It’s as if he’s preparing us for something nefarious down the road. Satan has always desired to be worshiped in place of God ever since his rebellion in Isaiah 14:13 and it’s my heartfelt belief that this burgeoning alien agenda is the final deceptive card he plays in the middle of the tribulation period. Nothing will unite man under one government and one religion like the existential threat of another intelligent species in the universe and this alien deception will be the final catalyst to make it come to pass. Only last week NASA announced the discovery of 7 new earth like exo-planets, three of which are in the habitable zone where water exists. NASA said it’s only a matter of time until another earth is discovered. Not only that, Pope Francis, who came out of the same Jesuit order designed to destroy the Protestant Reformation, and recently claimed that Christmas is a charade and Muslim terror is a myth, said he would ‘baptize aliens’ if they came to the Vatican in a recent homily. He said the Catholic Church has an ‘open door’ philosophy when it comes to alien visitors. Well friend that may be so but historical Pope’s of the Catholic Church would never even consider speaking some of the things Pope Francis has said in the past two years especially.

Friend, we have a ‘closed door’ policy to all things demonic and any alien claiming to be our interplanetary savior. We practice the enforcement of authority and power Christ bestowed to us in Luke 10:19. Friend what was the first warning out of Jesus mouth in the Olivet Discourse in Mat 24:4? “Take heed that no man deceive you.” Friend, deception is rife in these last days and if you don’t stand for something you’ll fall for anything. Just be sure that when you’re standing, do so upon God’s Holy Word and not the latest special from the History channel.

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  • Hello Carl,
    Enjoyed your podcast and absolutley agree with you as far as Satan being the prince of this world and the deceptions that he and his fallen angels are using and going to use to deceive men. I do however respectfully disagree about your comments about how “we will be long gone” before these deceptions are fully unleashed. I believe you are referring to “the rapture” You will not find the word rapture in the bible. Its a nice thought, and thats why so many people cling to it, but is not biblical. Its just another one of Satans tools to deceive. This is a doctrine that was conceived by the jesuits and introduced into Christianity to create confusion and deception. ( another whole discussion) EVERY example in the bible shows us that Gods people are saved thru tribulation not from it. Rest assured we who are alive will indeed be here for satans final deceptions, and it will be a test of our faith like none other. Please read Matthew 24 , in which Jesus himself is describing what will happen end times. Note verse 13- “but he who endures to the end shall be saved”. Who will be here to preach the gospel to all the world as in chapter 14, if we are just raptured away?
    Revelation 13 & 14 also give a description of what will take place. A massive deception as Satan himself transforms into an angel of light and impersonates Jesus himself. Why would he do this if the only people left on earth were the lost…because Christians have been raptured away? Whos he trying to deceive? Its ALL people and the only ones that will be saved are the ones as described in REV 14:12 “here is the patients of the saints, here are those who keep the commandments of God and the faith of Jesus”
    Revelation describes the scene, Christions will have to endure untill Jesus returns, at that point Thessalonians 4:17

    Then we who are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And thus we shall always be with the Lord.

    • Thank you so much for taking the time to listen to the podcast. It is always great to hear from listeners. The fact you responding means you love the Lord and care for His word, Amen. These are the same questions I too have pondered over the years and you raise great points.

      It is comical that Christians don’t think the rapture exists because the term isn’t in the bible, just as demon, millennial reign, Second Advent or Coming, nor trinity are in the bible either (KJB), yet they are essential aspects of orthodox doctrine. As Christians we have the right to disagree on the timing of the rapture, although I do not agree your view is the correct hermeneutic.

      The English word ‘rapture’ comes from the Latin word rapere, which means ‘caught up’. Jerome translated the NT from Greek into Latin (albeit an inferior text). The source of the English term rapture comes from a Latin source equivalent to the Greek term for being ‘caught up’ (1st Thess 4:17). Some scholars also couch the Latin word for ‘snatched’ is “raptus” and is more likely the source for our term, rapture. The rapture is straight from the pages of the Holy Bible. It is not a satanic deception. It is a satanic deception to claim the Bride of Christ will endure God’s wrath in the form of a seven-year tribulation. The church is not mentioned after chapter four of revelation, prior to the opening of the seals. That speaks for itself.

      Eight times in the NT we’re admonished to look for the ‘soon return of Jesus Christ’ but never the Antichrist.

      The ‘rapture’ is described in the bible as follows:
      1) The catching away (1st Thess 4:17).
      2) The Blessed hope (Titus 2:13).
      3) The gathering together (Heb 12:22-23).
      4) Changed (1 Cor 15:51-52).
      5) Falling away (2 thess 2:3) – Six major English translations of the Bible prior to the 1600s rendered the noun apostasia as either “departure” or “departing” in 2 Thessalonians 2:3. This is the physical departure of the church (rapture), prior to the appearing of the antichrist. They are: The Wycliffe Bible, The Tyndale Bible, The Coverdale Bible, The Matthews Bible, The Great Bible and the Geneva Bible.

      Matthew 24 does not address the church of Jesus Christ, particularly. Jesus responded to questions regarding His second coming. The mystery of the rapture was not revealed to them until the epistle of Thessalonica was written, although it is alluded to in the Gospels (Jn 14:3). Certainly, there are signs revealed at the Olivet Discourse (Mat 24 et al) which includes birth pang’s which describe the ‘last days’ and times leading up to the extraction of the church. The Rapture involves the Lord taking the Church to His Heavenly abode by meeting him in the clouds, while the Second Advent (or Coming) serves as the introduction of Christ’s earthly Kingdom. The Olivet discourse is Christ’s response to a question regarding the Second Advent (not rapture).

      Just to be clear, I am NOT saying that we won’t witness a burgeoning of the UFO phenomena in the years leading to the rapture, we certainly will. I am saying we will not see the antichrist reigning, as our departure makes way for his arrival on the world scene. The antichrist cannot appear on the world stage until we (the church) depart from the earth (2 Thess 2:3).

      You mention the gospel being preached in the tribulation and you are correct. Did you know it is the job of ‘angels’ to preach the gospel in our absence? Check it out: The Everlasting Gospel (Rev 14:6-7) – This gospel heralds imminent judgment for those in the tribulation period and is preached by an angel from heaven, after the rapture of the church. Under OT law, two or three witnesses were required (Dt 19:15) and in the tribulation period, three witnesses will be offered in the form of Moses (law), Elijah (prophets) and an angel preaching that Christ is Messiah. Along with the 144,000, the earth will be saturated with the gospel, but you must avoid taking the Mark of the Beast, and ‘endure until the end’ of the tribulation, to enter eternity. Angels have to do the job, because the church is absent. Tribulation saints are those saved during the tribulation, who receive the everlasting gospel. These are not to be confused with saints in the church presently.

      The rapture is not a Jesuit conspiracy, far from it. The rapture of the church was taught by the Apostles and early church fathers including (Clement of Rome (95 AD), The Shepherd of Hermes 100-120 AD, and Ephraim the Syrian amongst others) and was retained by all orthodox Christians, throughout the centuries, who recognize the Bible as final authority. This is not a ‘new’ doctrine. Alexandrian and Romish texts are amillennial and do not preach the rapture of the church or the millennial reign of Christ. You won’t be hearing Jesuits preach the rapture or the gospel, that’s for sure.

      The church will never see the tribulation because it is a time of God’s ‘wrath’ (Rev 14:10, Rev 14:19, Rev 15:1, Rev 15:7 & Rev 16:1), and we (the Church) are not appointed to ‘wrath’ (1st Thess 5:9). Wrath is only preserved for God’s enemies (Nahum 1:2), the unrighteous, the ungodly and children of disobedience (Rom 1:18, Rom 2:5, Eph 5:6, Col 3:6). In contradistinction, we (the Church) are ‘sons of God,’ not enemies of God (Mat 5:9, Luk 20:36, Rom 8:14;19, Gal 3:26). The bible maintains a principle of the righteous escaping wrath and judgment and this principle will be upheld to the very end.

      To be clear, no Christian is going through the tribulation…why? Because the tribulation period is a time of Jacob’s trouble, not the church’s (Jer 30:7). The blood of Christ has paid the price of God’s wrath for the Christan; therefore, we will never see Gods ‘wrath’ on earth or under the earth (in hell). We will never see wrath of any kind. The tribulation is for those who have rejected Christ during the dispensation of Grace, which terminates with our departure.

      If you are serious about studying the timing of the rapture, start out by listening to these podcasts firstly:


      Please don’t respond to this email until you have listened to all of these podcasts. Please respond with biblical references to counter. If we do not propose arguments based on scripture then our discussion is moot.

      I love Canada; it truly is a majestic country with great people. I have been there several times. If there’s one place on earth you might be able to survive the tribulation, Canda would be it, but you don’t have to Steve and you’re not a coward for going in the first round. Love you brother.

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